Jim McGuiggan (00:05)
But one thing we’re sure of is God is not saying, I set forth Jesus as the one I’m punishing so that I can get to forgive you. What kind of a God is that? Would you tell me that? What kind of a God is it who can forgive you without punishing somebody innocent? Tell me that.
Tell me that. What kind of a God is it who can forgive without punishing sin out of it? Jesus Christ, we’re told by some people, Christ takes all our sin on Him, off, off us, on us, and God punishes sin away? Punishes it away? He doesn’t forgive it. He punishes it away.
That’s bad doctrine. So I don’t care what scholars say. Well, it’s a good metaphor. It’s not a good metaphor. But if it were offered as a metaphor, that wouldn’t be so bad. The people who offer penal substitution aren’t offering it as metaphor. They say it actually, literally is true that God punished Jesus for everybody’s sins.
Well, if Jesus was punished for everybody’s sins, then how can anybody be punished then? ⁓ and that’s where some people with a distorted theology enter. They say, he wasn’t punished for everybody’s sins. He was only punished for a certain group’s sins. There you go. There you go. This is where penal substitution leads. It either leads to universalism or least to limited atonement where Christ does not die for everyone. He dies for only an elect few that God has in eternity determined, well, I’m going to have them and I’ll get him to die for those. The rest will, you know, they’ll go down. That’s not Bible. Never was Bible. Very popular though, but it’s never Bible. Never mind. Forget all lexical work.
Forget all the lexical work. Forget the grammar. Forget the syntax. Let other people worry about that. We’re glad they worry about it. We’re glad they give us a Bible that we can read. But once that’s done, it’s your view of God that makes all the difference.
It’s how McIntyre said, no it was George Adam Smith that said, he said, the issue is not so much is there a God.
What kind of a God is there? Yeah. We’re in Romans 3. God set Jesus Christ forward as a by his death, by his blood, to deal with sin. Set him forth as a propitiation by his blood through faith.
Do we believe him? Do we believe that faithful one on whom everything depends? Yes. Well, by faith in him then, we grasp God’s faithfulness and righteousness. And God set him forth to show sin is dealt with.
He said he wanted to demonstrate his righteousness, God’s own righteousness. God says to Christ, this we need to do, and he sets Christ forth so that Christ will exhibit God’s own faithfulness, God’s own righteousness, God’s own being in dealing with sin.
He said he set him forth to demonstrate his righteousness because in his forbearance, God had passed over the sins that were previously committed. Did he pass over the sins that were previously committed?
What does it mean he passed over them? That he pass over the sins of Gomorrah
Did he? Does it look like he did? Did he pass over the sins of the world and Noah’s his day?
Does it look like he did? That he passed over the sins of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, and subsequently 40 23,000 Israelites who rebelled and all the exiles.
Does it look like he passed over them? He didn’t pass over them. He dealt with them.
Where people exalted and would have nothing to do with him. They died in judgment when God saw fit. For those who were not part of that exulting in evil, and who experienced forgiveness.
They were forgiven the animal sacrifices. They dealt with the issue.
But they were not dealt with and shown to be exactly what they were, precisely what they were, and fully what they were until God had Jesus come and expose them for what they were.